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Title: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 09, 2020, 12:05:55 PM
Hello Everybody.....  :biggrin:

So, after I have visited Steve Smith a few times, I really like the idea of a HO shunting layout.
The idea is to build it with every possible detail available to me and I want to make it as realistic as possible.
I have seen and done some really awesome stiff with my N Scale as well as the z, but HO will just be the icing on the cake.

I have been collecting for almost a year now, and have 3 Steam, 2 Diesel and 2 Electrical Locomotives.
I also have a set of small Passenger Coaches and 4 goods wagons. Still need to get a few more goods wagons.
Then for the track, I decided to use Peco Code 100. I have all the track as well as Points.

My dad helped me with the timber for the bench-work, so that is already cut  :biggrin: Just assembly needed still.

Buildings and all other scenery I will have to collect still, I have nothing  :(  :(

So, here is the idea.... Picture 01.
I designed the track plan using SCARM - Picture 02.
And the 3D view is generated, I added a few buildings, Station and Train Maintenance Shed I would like. Give a better idea  :thumb:

Keep watching and I will start assembly of the benchwork.
Foam is still a problem as blue sheets is not available, so I might use normal white Styrofoam.

Cheers,
Evert

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on May 09, 2020, 01:11:51 PM

Buildings and all other scenery I will have to collect still, I have nothing  :(  :(


Scratch build.

If you want the best possible detail and most probably accurate 1:87 scale then I would consider going the scratch build route.
Most kit are quite a bit below 1:87 scale. More like 1:100 and less.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on May 11, 2020, 01:47:24 PM
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Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 17, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
Hello All.....

OK, so I was searching for buildings during the week and I have also made a small change to the Goods Line. Changed the point from a Left to a Right, think the flow of the track looks better now.
Picture 01.

Picture 02 is just a quick 3D view  :biggrin:
Then I found this Vollmer Station. Still a kit, so I can build it and add all the detail I want. The idea is to super detail this.

More to follow  :biggrin:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 17, 2020, 08:48:35 PM
So this weekend it was time to start the build  :thumb:

My dad have tons of wood, so I got it all from him.
I had to go and buy Polystyrene sheets as the Blue-Foam is a bit out of stock.

So here goes.....
Wood was cut 1250mm planks and 600mm planks. I'm building 2x frames that will connect together.
20x20mm bracing with holes drilled for the wiring.

I finished the frames and the Polystyrene was cut and glued.

Next, I have to draw the track-plan over on the Polystyrene.

Enjoy the pictures till now.
More in the week  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on May 17, 2020, 09:04:18 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on May 18, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
Start looks promising...
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 18, 2020, 10:57:44 AM
Nice project!  :thumb:

I have to ask, working in the kitchen?  :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 18, 2020, 11:04:28 AM

I have to ask, working in the kitchen?  :biggrin:


LOL  :biggrin: no, no, our Kitchen, Living Room, Stoep (under cover) and Garage is all tiled with the same tiles.
Garage is my Train Room, but I work on the Stoep.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 18, 2020, 11:14:45 AM
Awesome Evert,

I work best in the dining room with my best friend/wife. :biggrin:

The light frame I made is helping me a lot especially with lighting.

Ciao and stay safe.
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 19, 2020, 07:35:10 AM
Good Morning All.

Hope everybody is still doing good.
I started with the In and Out line, Main Line last night.
So I measured 360mm from the front of the board and pinned a piece of twine , then measure 360mm on the other side and pinned the twine there too. Gave a nice straight line.
Then I glued one half of the cork on the one side and the other half on the other side.

I cut the cork from a 3mm sheet, 19mm wide and sanded the shoulders 45 degree with some sandpaper.

Next step is to draw the rest and then cut and glue the cork down.

Cheers and speak again soon.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 20, 2020, 08:03:25 AM
Hello All....

Small change..... All the track have been drawn and it looks like everything will work well.
I will also be able to split the two frames once the track is layed  :biggrin:

Cheers and speak again soon.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on May 20, 2020, 02:42:54 PM
Nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 20, 2020, 07:34:56 PM
Hi Evert, keep going, nice!  :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 21, 2020, 09:15:52 AM
Good Morning All......

Some more progress was made last night, almost all the Cork is layed.

Then this morning I also received....

Station - Vollmer 3524
Signal Tower - Kibri Set 38994
Goods Shed - Kibri Set 38994
Platform Details - Kibri Set 38994

Now I'm exited and I can start to build the complete station scene......  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert Loo
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on May 21, 2020, 09:47:27 AM
Your son is looking at this like, daddy is building this all for me.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 21, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
Your son is looking at this like, daddy is building this all for me.  :biggrin:

LOL  :biggrin: Yea, he is already asking when we can run the trains.....
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 24, 2020, 06:50:00 PM
Hello, Hello All,

OK, so the idea is to weather all the track, so I decided to change the wiring of the turnouts to make them more reliable.

I have all Electrofrog Peco Code 100, but I have two versions.
The new ones everything is done by Peco for the conversion, but the older ones you have to modify everything.

Picture 01 - Starting the work  :thumb:

Picture 02 - New version:
Bottom is the stock Point, top is the conversion.
Remove the connecting wire from the frog and solder a new wire from the inner to the outer track, this will supply the movable part of the Point power and not rely on the touch connection when it is switched.

Picture 03 - Old version:
Bottom is the stock Point, top is the conversion.
Much more work, cut the ties away and then solder the wire on.
Picture 04 and 05:
Then turn the Point around and the track have to be cut the same way as the New version.

More to follow......


Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 24, 2020, 08:08:08 PM
To install:

Out end of the point (4 rails) - Picture 01
Insulator Fishplates will be installed on the inside rails and Metal Fishplates on the outside Rails

In end of the point (2 rails) - Picture 02
Install Metal Fishplates on both rails.

Picture 03
Then to power the frog a wire (I chose blue) needs to be soldered to the frog
This will be connected to a switch to control the frog polarity (a Peco PL-13 can be used) I will use a standard on-off Slide switch with 3 poles.
Center will be Blue, Left and Right will be the Red and Black wires from the Track Power.


Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 24, 2020, 08:15:40 PM
Then for the painting of the track......

I started off with a light brown dry brush across the Rail Ties.
Then I painted a Red, Black and brown mix for the tie plates.
Then I took the same Red, Black and brown mix and watered it down and washed the rails.

I like the look and I think with some light grey Ballast it will look very realistic.

Cool, we will speak again, let me carry on with the painting...... Very slow process, but I really enjoy doing it.
Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 24, 2020, 08:34:39 PM
Very nice indeed Evert. Keep going!  :thumb: :biggrin:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 27, 2020, 07:34:54 AM
Good Morning All on this extremely COLD morning...... Wow, I'm freezing.....

I finished painted all the Points I also soldered on all the wires and all the points is in place.

Picture 01 - First step was to sand all the cork to give it a nice smooth flat surface.
Picture 02 - I then made holes for the wiring and put all the points in place.
Picture 03 and 04 - First set of points is fitted and glued to the cork.

Next step is to cut, paint and fit some Flex track upto the next point. Then that can be glued down too.

There is still some cork to be layed, but the idea is to build a Coaling Facility, but I do not have anything yet so I do not want to add the track until then.

@ ColWer and capeklr, is there not something between Wolfgang's collection that is still available?

Thank you all and we will speak again soon.
Cheers, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on May 27, 2020, 07:53:32 AM
Hi Evert,
I would have to go to Gordon's Bay to have a look.
All buildings and related stuff is still there.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: Steve Smith on May 27, 2020, 08:22:07 AM
While there are a number of photos of the progress being made with the layout, there are none of you actually working !   Are we being expected to believe, without proof to the contrary, that this is all your own work ?

Steve   >:D
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: MIKEA on May 27, 2020, 09:08:14 AM
Hi Evert,
If you are interested I have an assembled Vollmer HO 5722 coal loading hopper kit for sale.
Regards,
Mike
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 27, 2020, 06:39:59 PM
Hi Evert,

So nicely done. With all the bits and pieces on the floor I can see you are very active.

There is a saying in our house, "making sawdust and smoke from wood".  :biggrin:

Stay safe!

ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 28, 2020, 07:33:20 AM
Good Morning All,

Last night I painted 2 lengths of Peco Code 100 Flex track and started to fit that  :biggrin:
So another 2 points is now in position.  :thumb:

@Steve...... Here is a picture just for you  O:-)

Cheers everyone and speak again soon.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 28, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
Mooi Evert, we must get you a workbench.  :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 29, 2020, 07:44:04 PM
Good Evening All.....

Yea, I should put the layout on a table, but luckily for me I do not have a problem working or sitting on the floor.
And it is not a permanent solution either. I need to put brackets up in the garage and then it will fit nicely against the wall above my N scale layout.

But here is some more pictures of my progress......

I painted and Fitted the Inspection Pit from Peco.
And I fitted some more track......

Regards, Evert.
Speak again soon.


Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on May 31, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
Hello All....

I layed the last of the track for now this morning.....
Next is do do some wiring so that I can actually get power to the rails  :biggrin:

I can finish the balance of the track once I have decided on a Coaling Facility for the front corner of the layout.

Cheers, and speak again soon.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on May 31, 2020, 05:09:39 PM
Nice Evert, steady pace.  :biggrin: :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 01, 2020, 08:13:56 AM
Good Morning All,

I started with the Electrical work yesterday  :biggrin:
It is the one thing I do not really like doing, but have to, to be able to run trains.

When I built the frame I drilled holes for the wiring, so I used those for the main bus.
I fed the main through the holes to create a U shape. One end was connect to a hook and the other end will be a connector block.
The Connector block will have two connections, on to the controller and one to the 2nd board.
The second board is done the same.

Picture 01 - All the feeders is in, they were fitted when I layed the track.
Picture 02 - Main bus in.
Picture 03 - Starting to connect the feeders to the main bus.

Steve, will you please be so kind as so post one or two pictures of your push pull connections with the switch?

Thank you very much and speak soon.
Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on June 01, 2020, 08:51:44 AM
Hi Evert,
that last photo has me confused.
Red and black connected together on one metal hook.
That looks like a dead short to me.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on June 01, 2020, 01:46:26 PM
Hi Evert,
that last photo has me confused.
Red and black connected together on one metal hook.
That looks like a dead short to me.

Good point - I confuse easily, but that one got me too?
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 01, 2020, 09:57:51 PM
Hi Evert,
that last photo has me confused.
Red and black connected together on one metal hook.
That looks like a dead short to me.

Good point - I confuse easily, but that one got me too?


LOL  :biggrin: Noooooo. It is only the Red that I made the loop from for the hook. The black is no where close......
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on June 08, 2020, 11:56:15 AM
Looks like progress dried up on this one... :stir: :peep:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 08, 2020, 12:08:47 PM
Looks like progress dried up on this one... :stir: :peep:

No, progress have been halted as I can not get the push-pull mechanism of the Points to work  >:(
Struggling a bit with that.

But as soon as it is working or I find a solution I will update again.

Cheers,
Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 09, 2020, 08:13:47 PM
Hello Everybody.....

Yea, I know it was slightly quiet on my side, but I had to make one point work before I will make 10 of them work.
So after some work and searching I finally got it working. And thank you to Steve for the nice explanation and all the info and pictures.  :thumb:

Here is the parts list  :biggrin:

The Point : Peco Code 100 Electrofrog. (modified for ultimate performance)
A DPDT Sliding switch.
2mm Welding Rods for Push/Pull leaver. (knobs I will still have to buy or make)
1.4mm Piano Wire (50mm long) from the sliding switch to the Point.

Frog Wire will go to the centre of the switch
Red to the one side and Black to the other.

Now I have to make 10 of these .....

Pic01 - drill 0.8mm hole in the switch (I started with 0.8mm Piano Wire, did not work, then 1mm, then 1.4mm)
Pic02 and 03 - block with switch and wires fitted.
Pic 04 - Fitment under layout.

Cheers and speak again soon.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on June 09, 2020, 10:31:00 PM
Neatly done.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on June 10, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
The research is part of any project.  :biggrin:

Nicely executed Evert.  :thumb:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on June 10, 2020, 11:27:28 PM
Another option rather than using welding rods - use bicycle spokes and the insides of chocolate blocks as connectors (these ideas also from Steve). This is for the sliding switch throwing only! Piano wire still to go to the Peco switch. Eric Roberts used baby safety pins for going up to the Peco points.

I don't have any pictures, but I do have a bundle of spokes you can have / use.... 8)
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 11, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
Good Morning All....

OK, so last night I made the holed from the bottom of the layout up to the points.
Then I measured and positioned the switches.

So I could cut the wooden blocks and drill the holes for the Piano Wire and the 2mm Push\Pull Rod.
I finished the first 3  :biggrin: I have another 6 to make..  :eek:

Oh, Ed, Yes, Steve told me about the bicycle spokes, but I have the welding rods and it works. And yes I will extend them with big connector blocks to the front of the layout.

Cool, speak again soon.
Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: Steve Smith on June 11, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
You had better make sure the switches are properly wired BEFORE you mount them; there is no way in hell you will be able to solder wires on once fitted !

Steve :bueller:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on June 12, 2020, 08:16:18 AM
You had better make sure the switches are properly wired BEFORE you mount them; there is no way in hell you will be able to solder wires on once fitted !

Steve :bueller:

Sound advice... :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 18, 2020, 09:38:00 PM
Hello, Hello.....

Yea, it's been a while, but I have been working on the layout and last night I got to run a train..... And WOW, it felt soooooooo GOOD.
Track is not super clean, but the little Koff ran super slow and with no hesitation.

I still have to work a pit on the points, going to add a block with a hole for the push/pull lever, as there is just to much play on the switch.
But overall, it really works well.

Here is some pictures.

Wiring for frog switches is also done  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on June 19, 2020, 11:51:58 AM
Very nice!  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on June 19, 2020, 12:25:46 PM
Its a special moment when that first loco drive on a new layout.
 :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on June 19, 2020, 03:56:16 PM
Very Nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 20, 2020, 10:17:34 PM
Right, small update, but lots of work done and completed  :biggrin:

I finished all the wiring for the track as well as the points.
I also finished all the push/pull controls for the points, they need some work still, but they do work.

So I was running trains.... what a awesome feeling and experience.
Will post some pictures later.

cheers, Evert

Now I can play with some scenery..... Think I will start with the Platform at the station.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on June 21, 2020, 05:05:54 PM
Awesome Evert.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on June 28, 2020, 11:00:58 PM
So I received a phone call from our friend today  :biggrin:

A while back I inquired about Wolfgang's Signals that was on his layout.
So I got 3 to test.....

When I bought the switches for the Points I was advised to buy DPDT Sliding switches.
Thank you Steve.
I connected the power for the Frogs to the one set and I wired in a Brown, Green and Yellow wire for the signals.

So today I received the Signals from Yörg to test.
They are Viessmann 14-16V AC

So, just to make sure I made sure that the sliding switches connections are all separate, so there are 2 pairs of 3 connections. (center, left and right)
Awesome, so, with my crocodile clamps I connected the lights to the AC.  :thumb: Working
Then I connected the common, brown, to the AC.
Then I connected the center, brown of the switch also to the AC.
Lastly I clamped the Green from the Signal to the Green of the switch and the Red of the Signal the the Yellow of my Switch.

And it is working  :biggrin:
When I pull or push the rod, that is connected to the switch, the power of the track change and the signal also changes and the Train are allowed to proceed or stop.....

Super cool  :biggrin:

Next is to make the hole in the layout and fit it to see how it looks.
Work for another evening.

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on June 29, 2020, 04:00:38 PM
Awesome Evert.  :thumb:

Now I know who to phone when we are going to set up the signals.  :D

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 01, 2020, 11:12:38 PM
Good Evening All

So, I did some research on where and how signals should be placed and yes, in Germany the signals is on the right hand side of the track.
Mmmmmmm, small problem, not going to work on my layout, so I decided to do what works.
It is my Railroad after all  :biggrin:
I will try to use the correct ones at the correct place so here we go.

I glued some cork for a solid base for the Signal and with my Dremel I made a hole for the signal in the position I decided on.
I had to take my bench-work in consideration also.

Then the wiring......
I wanted do do it neatly so I fitted two (Brown and White) wires for the AC power.
This I connected to the connector block where everything else for the Signal went into.
All I still have to do is to glue the wires neatly in straight lines.

Then I tested with a train.  :biggrin:
So cool, when the point change the signal change..... VERY COOL !!!!!! Love it  :biggrin:

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 02, 2020, 07:56:30 AM
 :thumb:
There is actually a sign that is set up if the signal is on the left side of the track due to space constraints.
So there you have an extra detail to fit.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 02, 2020, 10:10:55 AM
Nice Evert! Love it!  :thumb:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 02, 2020, 01:13:27 PM
:thumb:
There is actually a sign that is set up if the signal is on the left side of the track due to space constraints.
So there you have an extra detail to fit.

AWESOME !!!! Thank you, more detail  :thumb:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on July 02, 2020, 01:37:48 PM
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 07, 2020, 10:31:31 AM
Good Morning All.....

All 3 the Signals are connected up and I'm happy with the positioning of them.

1 - At the start of the layout - normal stop go. Main Line
2 - Just before the points that go into the Station - Stop and Proceed slowly. Main Line
3 - first siding Signal.

I think it is starting to look very cool.
Hopefully I will receive my Farm Buildings today, so then I can finish all the track  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 07, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
Hi Evert,
I have edited your photo a bit.
Signal. red horizontal arrow should be placed at the black horizontal arrow.
Signal, red vertical arrow is the wrong one, you need the two arm signal here as the train can turn off the mainline. Here you can fit the signal on the right (correct)
side of the track as shown by my black arrow.
You can also place the signals a bit closer to the track.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 07, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
Hi Evert,
I have edited your photo a bit.
Signal. red horizontal arrow should be placed at the black horizontal arrow.
Signal, red vertical arrow is the wrong one, you need the two arm signal here as the train can turn off the mainline. Here you can fit the signal on the right (correct)
side of the track as shown by my black arrow.
You can also place the signals a bit closer to the track.

Thank you for your help Jörg  :biggrin:
OK just so that I understand.

horizontal arrow - so if the signal is at the siding at the black arrow it will work together with that point, correct? Blue Arrow.
vertical arrow - OK that can change and then I assume the signal will then turn around to face the traffic comming out of the station, going off the layout? And will still work with that point correct? Green Arrows.

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 07, 2020, 08:00:16 PM

horizontal arrow - so if the signal is at the siding at the black arrow it will work together with that point, correct? Blue Arrow.

You could set it up that if that point is straight then that signal shows proceed. When the point is on turn out then the signal is on stop to prevent a train shunting out of the siding to collide with another train. The signal is always on the right side of the track in the direction that the train is moving at the time. Only in very few cases, marked by a special board, is the signal allowed to be on the other side.

vertical arrow - OK that can change and then I assume the signal will then turn around to face the traffic comming out of the station, going off the layout? And will still work with that point correct? Green Arrows.

No, this is the signal for the incoming trains. You do have space on the right side of the track here.

Cheers, Evert

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 07, 2020, 08:01:48 PM
Sorry my quote did not work the way I wanted it to work so my comments are in the middle of yours.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 09, 2020, 08:59:04 AM
So, on Monday I received all my farm buildings  :biggrin:

Farm House.
Old Ladies Mill, Tripsdrill, In real life this is part of the theme park, but I will use it as a actual Mill for grain that can receive or deliver produce to the Kibri Grain Elevator.
Heyloft from Vollmer.
And a set of Kibri parcade fencing.

Then I also found all the parts for the Vollmer LocoShed I have. I will change this one in a single shed.
All accessories for this is still outstanding and will be collected in due time.

Kibri Signal Tower and Station canopies I also have, but I will build the platforms myself so fit the track.

Here is some pictures  :biggrin: Enjoy.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 09, 2020, 09:07:45 AM
Last night I made sure that my farm can work and got a quick picture by laying the basis on the layout.
I then worked out the last section of track and I glued down the cork.

Tonight I can start with the track work for this section.
Points have to be modified, painted and feeders soldered in.

Regards, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 09, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Awesome Evert! Enjoy. :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 14, 2020, 01:05:37 PM
Good Morning All.....

I was building Platforms this weekend and got the basic shapes finished last night  :biggrin:
So now I can start to finish them off and paint.

I used 40mm Blue Foam and cut it to a thickness of 5mm. I decided to keep the look similar to the platforms that came with the Station Kit.
I then made a template from the track and drew that over to the foam.
I also had to glue all the sections together to make is work.

I test fitted everything and I drew with a pen held against a wagon the path the wagon will follow. This was to make sure that the wagon does not hit the platform. I had to make some minor changes, but most of it was good.

So here is some pictures  :thumb:


Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 14, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Nice Evert!  :biggrin: :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 18, 2020, 05:11:34 PM
Hello All.....

So I have spent quite some time on the Platforms and I'm very happy with my progress and the look.
I searched on the Internet for some stone wall pictures and found this one - Picture 01
I then made strips of 10mm and printed a few. This I glued on the side of the platform.

With a sharp pin I made grooves for the corner stones and painted it all a concrete grey colour - Picture 02
I wasn't very happy with that as it does not look right......  ???

Then I cut some 2mm cardboard strips and glued it on the side. I also made grooves on this to show the sides of the stones.

Then the ends of the platforms was sanded at a angle - Picture 03

To fix the grooves of the stones I mixed some creatstone, but I added loads of water and some woodglue. (the glue is so that the creatstone does not crack and chip off.)
This I painted over the stones and wiped it off with a wet spunge.

So now once it is dry I will paint it again to see the full effect.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 18, 2020, 07:32:31 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 18, 2020, 08:14:10 PM
Ooh nice!  :thumb: :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 19, 2020, 12:59:17 PM
So, last night I still painted the Platform grey and added a black wash over that.
It might be slightly to dark, but I like the look of it, so I'm going to leave the colour alone.

Before I paint the final bits, I thought lets testfit it again just to make sure.
I think it will look awesome and none of my locomotives touch the platform, yes, I know it is close, but it works.

So I'm happy now and will finish the painting.
Then I can fit it to the layout  :thumb: can't wait !!!!!

Oh, I also received the Buffer stops, Fleischmann Buffer Stop 6117..... Think they look awesome. Just need to do some painting on the back.

Will post some more pictures once I'm done a bit later.  :biggrin:

 
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 19, 2020, 07:10:38 PM
Nice Evert! Looks very nice.  :thumb:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 20, 2020, 08:46:19 AM
Good Morning All....

So, I finished the painting and I also painted the Buffer Stop  :biggrin:
Here is before and after, the rusty coloured one is the one I painted. Picture 01 and 02.

Then I searched again on the Internet for Platforms in Germany and decided to paint the edge white with a yellow caution line on the inside.
The edge stones I painted a brown-ish colour.

I also glued the platform in place and tested a loco again to make sure.

I really like the look of the platform, I'm very happy.

Regards and hope you all have a awesome week.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on July 20, 2020, 09:07:19 AM
Beautiful, I like that faded yellow line.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 20, 2020, 05:18:35 PM
Weathering is awesome.  :thumb:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on July 20, 2020, 10:26:55 PM
Awesome work!!! :thumb:

I seem to recognize a few of these locomotives... :innocent:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 22, 2020, 07:56:53 AM
Good Morning Everybody  :biggrin:

I painted wired and fitted quite a big section of track on Monday and Tuesday evening  :thumb:
2x points, a medium crossing and some filler sections.

Now there is 2 straight sections left to do, so I will paint them tonight and hopefully lay tomorrow evening.
Then I will wire everything up over the weekend.

Cheers everybody and hope you all have a awesome day and week.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on July 22, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
 :howzit: :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 24, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Good Morning All  :biggrin:

I finished all the track laying last night  :howzit:
So this weekend I will finish the wiring for that and then I will install the last 2 switches and fittings for the Points.

I might also move the signals as Jörg sugested  :biggrin:

So, lots of work, but luckily all the ground work is done so it is basically just hooking everything up.

Cool, enjoy the Friday and weekend.
Speak again  :thumb:
Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: Steve Smith on July 24, 2020, 10:15:56 AM
Those bricks really don't make good stand-ins for loco's !

Steve   :stir:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on July 26, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
Those bricks really don't make good stand-ins for loco's !

Steve   :stir:

Not particularly... :stir: :peep:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on July 28, 2020, 08:04:34 AM
Good Morning All.....

I finished all the track electrical work  :thumb:
I also finished all the Push-Pull switches for the Points  :thumb:

Everything was tested and it is working VERY NICE !!!!!!!  :biggrin:

Then last night I decided to paint the frame with the dark wood stain I always use.
This was sanded and I then glued the 3mm Hardboard on.

I will sand and cleaned it up and then the final stain coat will go on and the white strip will be painted green  :biggrin:

Cool, more to come......
Enjoy the week and speak again soon.

Cheers, Evert



Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on July 28, 2020, 11:39:14 AM
Paint it black rather than the green? I think it makes it "pop" on top... my 2 c... :peep:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on July 28, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
Coming on nicely Evert!  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 02, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
OK, so last section of the Facia also finished......  :thumb:

I searched around for nice knobs for the points. I only need 9 so to spend a bit on that is OK.
I found some cupboard pull knobs at Gelmar at N1 City  :biggrin: R12 each..... Awesome......

I drilled a 25mm hole, so the background I will paint black and the facia green, I like the green  :innocent:

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 02, 2020, 09:03:42 PM
I have also over the weekend, fitted most of the signals and took the wrong ones out and moved them.

Here is the fitting process.
I glued a piece of cork on to the foam to make them the same level as the track.
Then with my Dremel, I drilled a nice hole just smaller than the signal solenoid, so that it fit tightly in the hole.
The siding signals have a square base, so I had to cut the cork square after I made the hole.

Really worked well, so I'm quite happy.  :biggrin:

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 02, 2020, 09:11:05 PM
Then I started to do the wiring of the signals.....  ???
I realized that the point is on the one module and the signal is on the other...... No what !!!!!! Ai......

OK, so it is 3 wires per point that I will have to unplug if necessary.
Computer COMM PORTS  :biggrin: You get a 9 pin one.

So I made it work.....
I also cut a small piece of flat Styrine to make a fitting plate.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 02, 2020, 09:42:17 PM
Then, a while ago Jörg aid that if a signal is in a different position then there is a sign to indicate that, so I did some searching today and I found it  :biggrin:

Ne 4 / So 2 - chessboard
A square board with a black and white checkerboard pattern.

The main signal is not immediately to the right of or above the track.

If, for example, for reasons of space, a main signal cannot be placed directly next to or above the track, the chess board is set up instead and the main signal itself is set up elsewhere.

However, the chessboard is also used for construction work in temporary, single-track auxiliary operations. Here a track is blocked and declared a construction track, checkerboard boards are set up for the track that is being driven in the opposite direction so that the entry signals remain valid (of course, these can no longer be set due to the lack of routes; the replacement signal is then continued).


So, I made it myself  :biggrin: I like it and I think it came out great.
Here is some of the signals fitted, I still have to fit 3 then that is all done  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on August 03, 2020, 12:11:24 PM
Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 03, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
Hi Evert,
you will never get two of the same signals so close to each other.
The one with the red arrow is incorrect, as this signal would also cause the driver to possibly stop on a switch which
is not permitted.
There is even a small sign that denotes the closest that a loco or coach my stand to a switch.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 03, 2020, 01:50:42 PM
Hi Evert,
you will never get two of the same signals so close to each other.
The one with the red arrow is incorrect, as this signal would also cause the driver to possibly stop on a switch which
is not permitted.
There is even a small sign that denotes the closest that a loco or coach my stand to a switch.


Thank you very much Jörg.
How would this then be handled? Will both points be indicated with the same signal then?

Thank you, speak again soon.
Cheers, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 03, 2020, 02:07:48 PM
Hi Evert,

I'm trying to figure out how your trains will run on this layout.
Do you have the first signal together with the two switches?
Then the signal with my red arrow with the switch after that?
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 03, 2020, 02:14:42 PM
Hi Evert,

I'm trying to figure out how your trains will run on this layout.
Do you have the first signal together with the two switches?
Then the signal with my red arrow with the switch after that?


I will post a picture with better view of the Points and the Signals that I have attached to each point.
Thank you  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 09, 2020, 09:54:04 PM
Very small layout update.....

I received my Control Panel in the week  :biggrin:
I fitted all the switches so now I have to do all the wiring.
I still have to go and buy the LED's for the panel.

Cheers, Evert

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on August 10, 2020, 02:50:33 PM
Nice one Evert, its going going so well.

Keep it up!  :thumb: :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on August 10, 2020, 04:45:58 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 10, 2020, 10:48:07 PM
Hello again......

I started with the Platform Canopies today.
Kibri set and it come with a glass roof and loads of details.  :biggrin:

So I painted the structure dark grey with a black wash.
The glass, I have coloured the trimming between each pane with dark grey marker.

Next step is to fins small LED's and add some lighting.

Cheers, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on August 11, 2020, 01:41:38 PM
Very very nice Evert! Stunning! :thumb: :biggrin:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 11, 2020, 08:16:12 PM
Hi Evert,
may I ask how you are going to fit small Led's under the platform canopy's if you have already fitted them to the layout?
Otherwise its looking very good.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 12, 2020, 07:09:47 AM
may I ask how you are going to fit small Led's under the platform canopy's if you have already fitted them to the layout?

Hello Jörg.....  :biggrin:
Platform canopy's is not fitted jet, I just positioned them to cut the holes in the platform where they will fit.

I found small SMD LED's at Yebo Electronics, so will fit those.
And all the canopy parts is hollow, so I can hide the wires nicely  :biggrin:

Cheers, Evert
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 12, 2020, 08:07:20 AM
 :thumb:
With that clamp there it looked like you are waiting for the glue to dry.
For the Led's, you can connect five in series with one resistor, then you have less heat loss over the resistor.
If you need some tips on how to do it you know where I am.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on August 13, 2020, 08:37:07 AM
Looking good! :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 16, 2020, 02:53:01 PM
Good Afternoon All.

So I decided to get SMD LED001 from Yebo Electronics.
They are super small, but I will work and they look good size wize.

Picture one is the LED on the ctrl key of my laptop.
I also got some very thin wire from a friend and it really worked well.

Then how to make some sort of cover for the LED??
I took one of the left over plastic from the kit and I drilled a 1mm hole through it. Then with my countersink I made a 6mm countersunk hole.

If I placed the LED in the hole and fill it with woodglue it will look like a cover.....  :biggrin:

I this is what I did.
Soldered the wire to the LED, that was a mission, it is REALLY small.
Fed the wire through the 1mm hole and poured some woodglue into the hole. Then I left it to dry 100%. Took one day to make one light  ???

And I have 4 lights per Platform Canopy......


Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 16, 2020, 03:17:56 PM
Soldering these Led's is tricky.
Double sided tape is costly, take a piece of scrap wood and with a stapler secure a piece of masking tape
sticky side up, then you can stick the Led down with the contacts up and solder easily.
Instead of wood glue you could also use clear prately glue, sets much quicker.
I like your idea for the light cover.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on August 16, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
Oh this is nice Evert!  :D :thumb:

Very interesting. Can you forward me the code for the led's please.

My mind ticking over for the next project.....

Until next time.

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 16, 2020, 10:22:27 PM
Hi Jörg, yes, I used some masking tape to hold them, worked quite well.

Werner, if you ask for SMD LED001 they will know. They come in a strip of 10 - R70.

Cheers, Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 16, 2020, 10:29:33 PM
Right, so, once dried I could remove the LED with its cover  :biggrin:
Oh, I also slide a small piece of heat shrink over the 2 wires as a light pole, I tested it and then Painted them grey. Weathered slightly with some rust, but not much.

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 16, 2020, 10:33:26 PM
Finally tonight I finished the first 4.

I made the holes in the Platform for the test fit. and I switched them on...... PERFECT  :thumb: I love it !!!!!!  :biggrin:
Yes, the light is white, but our houses and streets is also all different colours, so I'm not going to mess with them to try and get them warm white.

Now to start with the next 4  :biggrin:

Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 17, 2020, 07:49:15 AM
Well done, that looks very nice.  :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on August 17, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
That came out very nice :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The pictures lie about the size - they are super small! :eek:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on August 17, 2020, 05:13:52 PM
Nice Evert, well done!  :biggrin: :thumb:

Those little leds are really nice.

Thank you for the information. The list for Yebo is getting longer and longer.  :biggrin:

Love the idea for making the lampshades, awesome.

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: Steve Smith on August 17, 2020, 06:04:27 PM
Your next project is to do that in N scale with half-the-size LEDS !   :innocent: :innocent:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 23, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
Hello All......

Yea, it's been a while, but I have finally finished the station and it is fitted to the layout now  :biggrin:

I have also fitted most of the exterior detail for the station, gutters, chimneys ad few smaller details.
Roof and lights for the goods-shed is also done.

Here is a few pictures of how it looks now.
Enjoy and speak again soon.
Cheers Evert.
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: LooVille on August 23, 2020, 09:16:12 PM
And here is a few more..... Enjoy......
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: capeklr on August 23, 2020, 09:27:13 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: ColWer on August 23, 2020, 09:58:33 PM
Coming on nicely Evert!  :thumb:

Ciao
ColWer
Title: Re: LooVille HO Shunting Layout
Post by: BigEd on August 24, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
Where did you bury the cat? :peep: